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Freitag, 6. September 2002

What good are JavaServer Faces?

2002-09-06-jsf

Mark Pilgrim hat sich die Arbeit angetan und über die grösstenteils archivierten Diskussionen die Geschichte des RSS-Fork-Disputs rekonstruiert. — Could it have been any other way? Probably not. Nachdem Netscape offensichtlich das Interesse an RSS verloren hatte, hätte niemand den Namen für seine Weiterentwicklungen beanspruchen sollen - weder Winer noch die Verschwörung zur schleichenden RDFisierung des Webs. Die Importanz der Geschichte schwankt zwischen Operette und nicht unbeträchtlich.

Alles weitere bei earl.

Addendum: The Road to RSS 3.0, by Aaron Swartz. Yes! (Aus diesem Spass könnte allerdings Ernst werden, so wie damals, und warum eigentlich nicht?)

REBOL Parser for RSS 3.0, dasselbe in K ;-)

2002-09-06-rssFiasco

David Ness 8143 days AGO
Maybe this isn't the right place to discuss it, but does anyone actually `know' Winer? His writing makes me think he is startlingly ignorant as well as startlingly self-absorbed and self-important, but that could be a misunderstanding based on my `not seeing his good side'. From what I see, he is exactly the one guy I would not want to put `in charge of standards' and yet he always seems to be lurking around that sphere of interest somewhere. Can anyone point me in the direction of understanding this all better?

chris 8142 days AGO
I fear I cannot. To his credit, I guess it's him who did the most to evangelize RSS after Netscape lost interest — the question is, does this give him the right to retroactively take over RSS evolution AND accuse everyone else of "theft" (!)? Is the first thief, to use his idiom, any special?

David Ness 8142 days AGO
Thanks. That's a help. And I guess we do give `first thief' special status. At least that's one way of explaining how Apple's theft of the PARC interface counts as `innovation' rather than simple `theft'....

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