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Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002

Scientific Visualization and Information Architecture [ Ø SWR • ]

2002-12-18-viz

Is [create X#] coming?

Adam Bosworth im Februar des Jahres ...

2002-12-18-xSharp

"For a long time the big problem with [[create OLE Automation]], in my opinion, was the lack of robust and realistic examples showing what it could do — especially where Outlook was concerned. Happily this shortcoming has in recent times been addressed, and addressed in spades. Of all the script viruses, "I Love You" is still my preferred source of useful snippets for manipulating the Outlook address book, even if its author does insist on spelling mail "male." By the way, ILY also contains some good stuff demonstrating the VB file system object — I would lobby for its inclusion in MSDN, but I suppose it is too late now."

2002-12-18-byeOLE

"The .NET Common Language Runtime (CLR) is Microsoft's next-generation component technology. The CLR is a replacement for COM, but not for COM+. COM+ [DCOM], now called .NET Enterprise Services, is the Microsoft object runtime environment for scalable system development."

2002-12-18-comGoneES

gavin 8006 days AGO
From the Microsoft Watch article:

"Languages need to evolve or die," said Box. "XML and Web services push data manipulation into mainstream programming. But current language substrates are optimized for objects, not data."

Sounds ominous. What about all those great functional languages from the "old days"? They'll go off and create some freakish thing using more < and > and totally reinvent all the great things those old languages gave us or worse, just ignore them. Now if they called it Prolog# I might be interested.

chris 8006 days AGO
I guess whatever they'll come up with will remarkably feel like Lisp.

James Britt 8006 days AGO
The article was short of details. How is the concept of "data" defined? Languages such as Ruby or Perl have great text-handling powers; is that what is meant by "data"?

Is data expected to be more XML-ish? As Chris says, they'll liable to recreate Lisp, given that XML maps nicely to S-Expressions.

" ... push data manipulation into mainstream programming ..." Seems that programming, mainstream or not, has [create always] been about data manipulation.

nex 8005 days AGO
Bosworth mentions that XML was often adopted because it was presumably human-readable, but doesn't say that it really isn't so at all. You don't need just software to parse and edit it, you also need software to read it.

chris 8005 days AGO
Well, compared to some awkward binary format XML sure _is_ human-readable, isn't it? I don't think he was alluding to end-user-readability.

slauti 8000 days AGO
List processing is just one way of looking at it, lists can map trees and so on, but: the non so minded do not want to map the world to lists and trees and the like.

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